Congratulations to Tracy Adrian from Culver City, California for her award-winning story, "Random Shit That Comes Up in Therapy" and to all of the other contestants and winners of the WOW! Women on Writing Quarter 4 2024 Essay Contest!
Today, I'm excited to interview Tracy about her award-winning essay but... I have to be honest, this is not our first time! If you'd like to read our first interview together - you'll find it by clicking here.
Interview by Crystal J. Casavant-Otto
WOW: Welcome, Traci! Thank you for being here with me (again) today - I'm sure our WOW! readers are excited as I am to learn more about you and Random Shit That Comes Up in Therapy! Readers - if you haven't already, pop over and read Random Shit That Comes Up in Therapy and then return here for this fun interview! Don't rush - we will wait! And of course - here's a little more about Tracy:
Tracy discovered her passion for writing late in life.
Her youth was busily spent moving from house to dysfunctional house in the type of environments where she honed valuable survival skills such as denial, dissociation, people pleasing and daddy issues. These skills eventually blossomed into rebellion and self-destructive tendencies, and at fifteen she attended the prestigious Red Wing Juvenile Correctional School for Boys, (the only girl in an experimental program).
Tracy went on to many of Minnesota’s finest shelters and detention centers as a teen. She followed up with years of disastrous life choices and shockingly poor romantic judgments.
Today, she marvels at the strange road behind her, which somehow led to overwhelming gratitude and a sweet, sweet life she wouldn’t trade for anything in the world.
Tracy is a wife, mom, Realtor, and private pilot. She adores WOW’s CNF contest and tries to enter every quarter. Her essay “Chains” appeared as a finalist in WOW’s summer 2023 issue.
Now that everyone has had a chance to read your fabulous submission - let's get down to it, shall we?
Thank you Tracy for submitting - it's been awhile so fill me in girl! What have you been up to, what's next, tell me all the things! It's holiday time again to - so oh year, Happy Holidays! I have so much to ask -
Tracy: Happy Holidays! I am so excited to be talking with you again, Crystal!
Sometime after we spoke last year, I decided to fully commit to writing a memoir. A terrifying aspiration to send out into the universe. What if I can't finish it? What if it totally sucks? What if my ex reads it and hires someone to murder me? Typical concerns I'm sure every memoirist struggles with. But I'd been writing it in fragments for years anyway, so I finally admitted it out loud. Once I made the declaration, it was magically easier to allow myself the indulgence of spending time and resources on it. I applied for residencies, sent essays to publications I thought might be a fit, attended writers retreats and conferences. The book became a joyful priority.
WOW: Now I know why we are friends - my brain talks me out of stuff too...and the stuff it talks me into is the stuff I should run from. Gah... thanks for your bravery though and I'll let the authorities know it's your ex if anything happens to you, ok?
What inspires you to submit your work for our contests? What advice do you have for other writers when it comes to writing, submitting, etc...?
Tracy: I love the WOW contest because it gives me something to strive for. It's a thrill every quarter to obsessively check my email and see if I made it to the second round, and if I'm so fortunate, opening the email announcing the finalists is like Christmas morning.
Also, the feedback is invaluable to see what works and what doesn't. I have so many blind spots in my writing and a thoughtful critique from a neutral third party sheds welcomed light on these blind spots. In contrast, that same critique from my husband (another writer), might elicit, let's just say, the teensiest bit of irritation. So the WOW contest can benefit marriages as well as writing.
Decades ago, when I was a newborn real estate agent, building a business from nothing involved a lot of rejection. To this day, I hear eighty percent don't make it through their second year. A seasoned and extremely wealthy Realtor in my city offered this advice, "If I told you today you would be rejected on your first fifty listing appointments but thereafter you would begin signing clients, how quickly would you get those first fifty out of the way?" I began knocking out appointments that week, and her words
have always stuck with me.
have always stuck with me.
So last year I made myself a binder titled, "First Fifty Rejections." It contains submissions to magazines, writers residencies, even WOW essays, and their counterpart responses. Each one is numbered and I'm getting close to the magical fifty mark. This binder fills me with hope because I know I'm learning with each baby step and can see my efforts in a tangible way. I know I can't finish the memoir unless I become a better writer. At the same time, if I wait until I'm a better writer, my book will never happen.
WOW: AWE - we love you too and do we get together to burn the binder once you're published or how does this work? (that wasn't really a question - more of an idea) - On a more serious note, I remember from last time that we are both completely different animals without our daily coffee routine. What's your go to right now?
Tracy: It arrives on the Starbucks counter in a big chilly cup with a lid that allows turtle-friendly straw-less consumption and the first taste every day is sublime. I'm barely a human prior to that first sip, which is why I could never live in the wilderness.
WOW: That's my kinda love language right there! I must confess though, it's entirely too cold in Wisconsin right now and I gravitate away from the ice cold beverages and stick with the warmth of a hot latte'. Let's talk about something I can also relate to - in your bio you mention shockingly poor romantic judgments...girl...same. So - what does current day Tracy want to say to youthful Tracy? What advice would your modern day self give to your younger self when it comes to life, love, reading, writing, etc...
Tracy: In a way, that’s the crux of my memoir, so here’s the truth. If I could go back in time, I would tell Young-me a million things, but most importantly to stop giving her power away to others. She was desperate for a life she thought had to be granted her from an outside entity, never realizing she had the ruby damn slippers on the whole time. I would tell her that even when she believed she was powerless, her actions had ripple effects, and that two of those ripples would hurt others and become a burden of shame she would carry the rest of her life. Then I would tell her that the only person who could ultimately release her from that shame would be herself.
Sadly, young-me was never a big advice-taker, so even if I had a time machine to get to her, she would probably take a long drag off her cigarette, a swig of Bud Light, and tell me where to shove my wise counsel. And here we would still be.
WOW: Awesome advice! Now I'm even more excited to read your memoir - and in the meantime I'll just be over here in my dysfunction. Thanks for taking the time to chat with me!
Tracy: These questions were fun to answer. Overall, I’m a lot less self-conscious than the first time around. I keep saying this, but I am SO GRATEFUL for all of you at WOW, and I wish you the happiest holidays and thank you so much for what you do.
WOW: Thank YOU Tracy - I know we will get together again soon and I'm eagerly awaiting the opportunity!
Hugs!
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Interviewed by Crystal J. Casavant-Otto who just keeps on keeping on and can be found blogging and sharing on social media hashtag #raisingkidsandcattle #shelovesgodandsheridesgoodhorses #thankfulgratefulblessed
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